Pop/Expanding Rivets - KTM # 90114062001

[rick]

The next round of pop-rivets arrived!

This is the following two parts:
1. B016JPQAG2: 6.5mm Hole, 17.5mm Head, 24.5mm Total Length. 20 for $4.40
2. B00DU674GY: 6mm Hole, 12mm Head, 25mm Total Length. 20 for $1.97

At this point I'm thinking the Amazon seller "SODIAL" (B00DU674GY and B008FZD4O6) is just sending me the same 7mm pop-rivets no matter what I order from them. The good news is that I like the 6.5mm rivets (B016JPQAG2) even better than the last "acceptable" set (B00GYUTNXU) - it's a little tighter fit on the hole but, they seem much stronger and have a better head size. If you can wait for the slow shipping, I'd recommend buying these at this point.

 

[rick]

Here's all the other pics (so that you don't have to keep changing pages):

 

[msquared]

Rick,

Thank you for doing all this leg work and sharing your results! You saved me more than a few $$ replacing these damned things I am sure.

-Matt

 

[reenmachine]

Geez, back when I did mine I just ran down to AutoZone and bought a blister pack of 1/4" ones for a couple bucks and they worked like a charm. I'll see if I still have the package.

 

[rick]

Geez, back when I did mine I just ran down to AutoZone and bought a blister pack of 1/4" ones for a couple bucks and they worked like a charm. I'll see if I still have the package.

I had AutoZone P/N 700-578 (1/4" rivet) listed in my notes. The specs don't seem accurate so, I was meaning to check it out in person some day.

Hole Size: 1/4" (6.35mm) - Good!
Diameter: 1/8" (3.2mm) - that's gotta be wrong
Total Length: 1/2" (12.7mm) - too short

Also, msquared: De nada! It's been kind of fun!

 

[reenmachine]

Geez, back when I did mine I just ran down to AutoZone and bought a blister pack of 1/4" ones for a couple bucks and they worked like a charm. I'll see if I still have the package.

Found them. I had to use them again today and they work ok. I'm not a big fan of the threaded plunger -- it's kind of a PITA and doesn't make removal and reuse as easy as one would think.

Dorman 961-050, $6.72 on Amazon Prime (presumably for the same 6-pack). They were cheaper at AutoZone.

I'm a fan of simple and cheap solutions, so I'm going to order these up from Amazon at $5 for 100 pieces. I bet they'll work just fine and then I'll have enough for life.

I'll report back once again.

Some pics of the Dorman 961-050:

 

[rick]

Nice! Thanks reenmachine!
I hadn't been looking at alternative rivet designs 'cause I was aiming for a closer to stock substitute but, hey, whatever works!!!!!

 

[EnCee]

Thanks for this, there are quite a few diffferent cheap 6mm types on Ebay also.

 

[A1VW2NV]

Thanks Rick for this info.
FWIW, I use a 90* pick to first push the pin thru and then slide the pick under the shoulder of the rivet and pull it up/out. I have been able to reuse all of my fasteners so far.

 

[AirRsq]

Ha, I never even reinstalled them. It seems to me that they are pretty useless. The panel stays just fine without them and it makes disassembly/reassembly easier.

 

[reenmachine]

I'm a fan of simple and cheap solutions, so I'm going to order these up from Amazon at $5 for 100 pieces. I bet they'll work just fine and then I'll have enough for life.

These worked perfectly! Nice, snug fit, perfect length, and they're secure. Problem solved, as far as I'm concerned.

I also bought this tool for removal, which I recommend if you're going to have your fairings off with any frequency, regardless of the rivet style you use. Makes it easy.

 

[rick]

I have the snap-on version of these Harbor Freight panel clip pliers ($9):

Does the job and can be handy for prying off stubborn fuel line hoses too.

 

[Formula390]

<Alton Brown>
A unitasker!!! Eeeeek!
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LOL I've just always used my thumbnail, or for particularly stubborn ones, a dental pick.

 

[Ryanthegreat1]

<Alton Brown>
A unitasker!!! Eeeeek!
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LOL I've just always used my thumbnail, or for particularly stubborn ones, a dental pick.

Hey I happen to like my breakfast sandwich maker!

Sometimes having the right tool makes all the difference even if it is an unitasker.

 

[Hekimpd]

Well since I removed the body panels to prep them for the decal kit I ordered, I wanted to express my displeasure in these crap pop rivets. Really... Six small 4mm bolts with clip nuts was to much to engineer there?! What a joke. Yeah, I broke them all.

 

[rick]

FWIW, you don't really need them.

 

[Ride and Drive]

have you guys tried just putting tape over them?...

I need some as well and saw the same price. I can't help but think the price is for a package of 10 or so?

 

[stevieboy]

Riv-nuts is what I used. Threaded fasteners instead of the plastic expand-rivets. Same for the two up top under the windscreen.

 

[KwicK To Master KTM]

Is everyone trying to pop the plastic insert of the rivet out wards if that makes sense! Try pushing the centre part of the rivet through one notch - and presto the whole piece just comes straight out- I went trough heaps of these things while removing the fairings
at different times until I pushed them through - works a treat try it

 

[stevieboy]

They really are pretty easy to use and re-use once you figure them out. However if you break them the replacements from KTM are way too expensive.